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2. Love, Death & Sonnets (Pt 2)

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欢迎来到《此处有龙》第二集!这是一档由两名学院野兽派主播(包慧怡、桑阳)共同创办的多语种人文类播客。

🐉【本集简介】Ep.2: Love, Death & Sonnets (Pt 2) 《典雅爱情,生之忧,死之近》

本集中,你将邂逅的龙族包括:意大利国宝诗人蒙塔莱(Eugenio Montale),莱奥帕尔迪(Giacomo Leopardi),阿里奥斯托(Ludovico Ariosto),阿尔菲耶里(Vittorio Alfieri),哲学家维柯(Giambattista Vico),英国中世纪亚瑟王文学之父马洛礼(Thomas Malory),泛浪漫派诗人查特顿(Thomas Chatterton)、华兹华斯、济慈、拜伦等。

我们将一起追溯“典雅爱情”(courtly love/amour courtois/amor cortese)的渊源和悖论,通过两对著名恋人(但丁笔下的保罗和弗兰切斯卡,亚瑟王传奇中的兰斯洛和桂尼薇)的故事,探讨该文学理想对现代情感模式和浪漫爱传统的影响。你也将听到两位主播对这一系列问题的讨论:生活是走迷宫还是GPS导航?KPI至上的当下,经历“深时”是否依然可能?你正处在“人生”这首十四行诗的哪一节?

桑阳老师和制作人张泽熙为本期节目制作了详尽的术语和专名flashcard,希望能提升大家的收听体验。本期的三首精读诗歌也在shownotes中提供原文和中译和英译。

祝大家秋天凉爽,长假阅读快乐!

🐉【本集诗歌文本和诗人介绍】

🐉【时间轴】

01:30 桑老师咆哮体朗诵并解读《我是否爱你?噢,女人!》

10:00 差点死在北极的意大利诗人阿尔菲耶里

11:06 典雅爱情,来世今生

14:00 亚瑟王传奇和《神曲》中的恋人

19:10 昏迷大师但丁

19:38 昏迷大师济慈

20:50 突发💧!包包老师离场(此处已剪去10+分钟……)

27:25 包包老师朗诵并解读《当我害怕我将逝去》

36:50 桑老师朗诵并解读蒙塔莱《我常常遭遇生活之忧》

43:40 炼词师和灵视者;通向未来时代的耳朵

48:20 今日我们为何仍在读诗?

51:00 假如人生是一首十四行诗?

56:50 诗歌意志的乌托邦

59:40 选择的艺术和未选的路;小径分叉的“错花园”(Irrgarten)

1:00:00 恢复被迫失去的迷路权:此处有(好/小)龙!

1:02:38 重历“深时”;鸣谢;告别之歌(误)。

Paolo and Francesca by Dante Gabriel Rossetti

🐉【术语选辑】(含简介和相关奇闻逸事,特别感谢桑老师!该加大大的鸡腿🍗!)

本期全部专名和术语见百度网盘:

链接: pan.baidu.com

提取码: gc58

0:30 Romanticism:

5:12 Oxymoron:

7:11 “Impress” (etymology):

11:30 Troubadour:

One of a class of lyric poets and poet-musicians often of knightly rank who flourished from the 11th to the end of the 13th century chiefly in the south of France and the north of Italy and whose major theme was courtly love compare

  • trouvère: one of a school of poets who flourished from the 11th to the 14th centuries and who composed mostly narrative works(as chansons de geste and fabliaux)

12:58 Courtly Love/Courtesan Love/Amour Courtois:

13:50 "Virtuous" and "Man" (etymology):

14:00 The Allegory of Love by C.S. Lewis:

15:20 Thomas Malory: English writer who published a translation of romances about King Arthur taken from French and other sources (died in 1471)

22:12 Giacomo Leopardi:

31:00 Nihilism:

33:00 Cavalier Servente:

36:00 Iambic Pentameter:

45:55 “Corri Lesbino” and Giambattista Felice Zappi:

49:50 Agape:

51:30 Volta:

Sir Launcelot Looks on Queen Guinevere by James Archer

🐉【互动】What do you think of Courtly Love? What is your favorite poem in this episode? Why do we still read poems today? In your life, do you prefer to go strait from spot A to spot B or do you enjoy the wandering and meandering? Leave your comments below!

@本期节目主播:  包慧怡、桑阳

@制作人: 张泽熙

🐉关于我们的节目,有任何期待或建议,都欢迎发送至邮箱:hicsuntdracones@163.com!

展开Show Notes
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13人参与
本期节目中,你最喜欢哪位诗人的诗!
看结果
还有网盘哈哈哈哈哈哈谢谢~
包慧怡
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播客做成了精读课!
谢谢包老师和桑老师!!!your voices and words always made my day❤️❤️想听包老师讲Keats, Dickinson, Yates, Gerard Manley Hopkins还有当代爱尔兰诗人Paula Meehan💕
包慧怡
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谢谢收听!最近在翻译Meehan的诗集,有机会一定安排:)
Saturn_us
Saturn_us
2024.9.29
36:59 哭死! 只睡了一小时还要被test attentiveness 宁愿test italian啊!
xx_xx_HACn
xx_xx_HACn
2024.10.02
坐地铁的时候听感觉在跟着地铁穿越!
unchien
unchien
2024.10.22
24:57 Great point here! May I know the primary source of this tale? Truly touching even hurtful 💧
LucaSansone
:
Pietro Giordani. In a letter he expresses surprise because he expected Leopardi to be physically imposing, given the greatness of his poems, and he’s shocked to see him sickly and frail (sorry for the late reply, I just learned to use this app!)
unchien:No worries at all, much appreciated for the elaboration
宋爽_KtZx
宋爽_KtZx
2024.10.01
超棒,每期都好期待,已经推荐给学生,再次谢谢两位老师,
包慧怡
:
谢谢推荐🌹假期快乐!
乌鸦眼
乌鸦眼
2024.10.22
珍惜地听每一期(本期bonus:包老师的小珍珠
36:55 桑阳老师声音好好听!
NautiluShell
NautiluShell
2024.9.29
单选题太难了!所以请让我送上每次读Queen Mab都会被触动到的句子:But, were it virtue’s only meed to dwell
In a celestial palace, all resigned
To pleasurable impulses, immured
Within the prison of itself, the will
Of changeless Nature would be unfulfilled.
Learn to make others happy. Spirit, come! 谢谢你们带来一小时的幸福!
包慧怡
:
Thank you for your heart-felt comments! Till we meet in that celestial palace again: )
NautiluShell
NautiluShell
2024.9.29
1:03:03 thank you for providing this hour for us 😘
LucaSansone
:
Thank you for staying with us the full hour!
NautiluShell
NautiluShell
2024.9.29
45:21 “language is the awkward imperfect tool, but the only thing one has”,I suppose that means no matter how afraid one might be, we should still be brave to use that to make “impression” 有被这两处触动到!
LucaSansone
:
Plato discusses language and its ‘brokenness’ in the Cratylus, maybe we can have an episode about that? But really we’d like poetry more 😉
昆弋
昆弋
2024.11.18
09:17 答案在问题中 妙啊
这期厉害!
豆包她妈
豆包她妈
2024.11.01
谢谢两位老师,很喜欢你们聊天做节目,看起来很严肃晦涩的题材,听着你们聊天、诵读,好像走进了诗歌所处的时代,请早日开通打赏功能!
忆秋_
忆秋_
2024.9.28
14:53 这里echo了陈杰老师在井户端奥运那期讲的~“no love within the wedlock can be called truly love”
包慧怡
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hh所以典雅爱情文学主要诞生于不能继承家产迎娶heirness的贵族次子
忆秋_
忆秋_
2024.9.28
来了~~~
南辛_VsGr
南辛_VsGr
2024.11.24
58:57 桑老师说很喜欢labyrinth这个明喻,他说it requires (fright and error?),但是感觉肯定听错了……很抱歉,连读没有听出来,我保证这是最后一个提问了😂
包慧怡
:
trials and errors
南辛_VsGr:00:26 有怀疑是这个短语,谢谢包老师😭
南辛_VsGr
南辛_VsGr
2024.11.21
11:32 请问包老师此处的“toubodores”是指什么?求解惑……
张泽熙Jersey
:
在Notes部分有一些名词解释~troubadour:吟游诗人 One of a class of lyric poets and poet-musicians often of knightly rank who flourished from the 11th to the end of the 13th century chiefly in the south of France and the north of Italy and whose major theme was courtly love compare trouvère: one of a school of poets who flourished from the 11th to the 14th centuries and who composed mostly narrative works(as chansons de geste and fabliaux)
南辛_VsGr:谢谢张老师!
Eva_
Eva_
2024.9.28
又更新了🥰🥰
留着明天醒了听,这么细的内容怕晚上越听越精神哈哈哈哈