EP28 Exploring the Global Perspective of Art 探讨艺术的全球化视野

本期播客是艺仓美术馆线下公教对谈实录，我们很荣幸邀请到策展人Barbara Pollack 和 Shai Baitel 、艺术家 Robyn Ward 三位一起共同探讨艺术如何在全球化的大背景下，成为连接不同文化、促进相互理解的桥梁。他们将基于各自的艺术实践出发，分享作为策展人国际策展的经验、作为艺术家艺术创作背后的灵感来源、以及他们对于艺术在全球化时代所扮演角色的深刻洞察。

This episode of the podcast is initiated by Modern Art Museum Shanghai, we are honored to invite curator Barbara Pollack, Shai Baitel, and artist Robyn Ward to discuss how art becomes a bridge connecting different cultures and promoting mutual understanding in the backdrop of globalization. Drawing from their respective art practices, they will share experiences in international curation, the inspiration behind artistic creation as an artist, and profound insights into the role of art in the era of globalization.

【时间轴TimeLine】

01:45 Barbara Pollack：
The concept of the exhibition「MULTIPLY!!!」, artists participating, the experience of working in China.
07:29 Robyn Ward:
1. The difference between working on a street versus working in a studio.
2. How does political and social events back in the days in Ireland impacted his art making, way of thinking, ways of incorporating ideas into the art itself?
11:33 Barbara Pollack：
1. What do you find in the artist you selected for the curation of the show is great personal stories that are making them grand and relatable?
2. What has changed since the time that you have for your first experience and all the way through today, what has become so different given technological changes, given political society changes, we are indeed living in a new world today.
17:10 Robyn Ward:
How do you consider what we stand for in your art making?
18:56 Barbara Pollack：
Where is the Chinese art?
21:41 Robyn Ward:
what you feel about the concept and the introduction of your art in darker space.

【对谈嘉宾介绍 Speakers Introduction】

Barbara Pollack

作为一名策展人、教育工作者和作家，芭芭拉·波洛克自20世纪80年代末以来一直参与全球当代艺术工作。她是非盈利组织Art at a Time Like This的联合创始人，为致力于解决21世纪紧迫问题的艺术家提供自由表达的平台。

作为中国当代艺术领域的资深从业者，芭芭拉·波洛克于2022年在亚洲协会（Asia Society）策划了《镜像：中国身份的转变》，2015年在橙县艺术博物馆（Orange County Museum of Art）组织了美国首次中国青年艺术家群展《我这一代》。她的学术论文《陆扬：艺术家vs.虚拟形象》发表于学术期刊《屏幕身体》（Screen Bodies）。

芭芭拉·波洛克著有Brand New Art from China: A Generation on the Rise, Bloomsbury, 2018和The Wild, Wild East: An American Art Critic’s Adventures in China, Timezone 8, 2010。她为众多艺术家撰写文章，包括刘野、李松松、林天苗、王功新、赵赵、孙逊和屠宏涛等。芭芭拉曾获得亚洲文化协会奖学金和安迪·沃霍尔艺术评论奖。

As a curator, educator and writer, Pollack has been involved in global contemporary art since the late 1980s. She is the co-founder of Art at a Time Like This, a nonprofit organization providing a platform for free expression to artists addressing pressing issues of the 21st century.

A leading expert on Chinese contemporary art, Pollack curated Mirror Image: A Transformation of Chinese Identity at Asia Society in 2022 and My Generation: Young Chinese Artists, the first show of Chinese younger artists in the United States, which appeared at the Orange County Museum of Art in 2015. Her scholarly essay, Lu Yang: Artist vs. Avatar, was published in Screen Bodies, an academic journal.

Pollack has published two books on her research in China: Brand New Art from China: A Generation on the Rise (Bloomsbury, 2018) and The Wild, Wild East: An American Art Critic’s Adventures in China (Timezone 8, 2010). Pollack has contributed major essays on many artists including as Liu Ye, Li Songsong, Lin Tianmiao, Wang Gongxin, Zhao Zhao, Sun Xun, and Tu Hongtao. Several of her essays were included in the China Art Book, published by Dumont Literatur in 2007. Based on her extensive interest in this field, she has been awarded to Asia Cultural Council fellowships and a Andy Warhol Arts Writer grant.

Shai Baitel

Shai Baitel于是Mana当代艺术中心的联合创始人，上海艺仓美术馆（MAM）的艺术总监。他曾策划组织了鲍勃·迪伦在上海的首次体验式展览和建筑师扎哈·哈迪德于中国的首次大型回顾展览。他是多个著名出版物的作家和撰稿人。

Robyn Ward

罗宾·沃德成长于北爱尔兰，擅长以自身经历作为媒介，反思当下社会变迁。艺术家致力于审视历史是如何塑造当下世界，对气候变化、环境破坏、经济不平等等诸多问题作出回应。罗宾·沃德在过去多年里一直使用化名或以团体的形式进行艺术活动，直到2017年他的真实身份才被揭开面纱。

罗宾·沃德的作品曾在墨西哥城的塔马约博物馆与国家艺术博物馆展出，并参加了纽约、伦敦、洛杉矶、巴黎和香港等地的多个重要拍卖会和展览。

罗宾·沃德目前工作于纽约、洛杉矶、墨西哥城之间。

【主播介绍 Host Introduction】

余光照 Derek Yu

艺仓美术馆联合创始人暨馆长，毕业于中国台湾台北科技大学及台湾大学，主修电机工程、计算机、英美文学及法文。策展人，出版人，翻译家及作家。曾翻译包括《搏击俱乐部》等英法文传记及小说，并参与法国戏剧创作。创办台版《PLAYBOY》、《FHM男人帮》、美国《MAXIM风度》中国版、美国时代出版《INSTYLE型时代》中国版等杂志，担任出版人暨总编辑。2010年起创办艺仓美术馆并担任馆长。